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Mein R32 Umbau auf Turbo
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<blockquote data-quote="uKG" data-source="post: 50135"><p>hi, interessiere mich ebenfalls für einen turbo umbau, was eip anging hab ich auch nie was grossartig schlechtest in erfahrung bringen können.</p><p></p><p>aber viell. wollt ihr euch das mal durchlesen...</p><p>Quelle: <a href="http://www.rdefined.de" target="_blank">www.rdefined.de</a></p><p></p><p>mfg</p><p></p><p>---------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="http://images12.fotki.com/v214/photos/1/11117/2599846/DSC00267-vi.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Err hold up, what about the EIP Stage 1?</p><p>Yeah what about that Turbo? Well a lot has happened to my poor car since Memorial Weekend (when it was first dropped off) Clogged cats, missing waste gate bolts, incorrectly installed components, SW updates needed, miss-firing and stalling ECU etc etc. Basically the car (kit) just never worked and ran correctly.</p><p></p><p>For anyone who has “read between the lines” or has been keeping up it’s no secret that my car had some serious install issues. Rich himself acknowledged this in earlier threads (including the EIP vs VF comparison Chris & I did on the way back from DATR. Such so that as a result of the problems Rich is no longer offering California installs until he can assure that he has someone to perform the install correctly. Something which I think is a wise and good move for Rich to ensure he can give the best support.</p><p></p><p>This whole ordeal started for me around Memorial Weekend and I was never really able to drive the car until I was coming back from CO. The car was making 4.5lbs of boost and was quick, but no where near as quick as I wanted it to be, or I feel it should be. I could hear the engine crying for air (the same sound I used to hear in my Audi TT with front mount also) The other strange thing happening was the ECU would die repeatedly (normally in 1st or 2nd gear) but this was becoming a concern as, well, that’s just not right.</p><p></p><p>OK let me know explain where I am at this point in time. My car’s been messed around with for about 2mths and I’m still not driving a 100% reliable kit. The car is now sat in my garage and I’m trying to work with EIP to get someone up to fix it – or get my car to them to fix it.</p><p></p><p>So I begin to question (call & PM) other EIP users on the Tex and begin to find out that I am not alone with the problems I’ve been having. Hmm, heat issues, stalling ECUs, programming not right and generally not 100%. Now ok, at this point some fixes can be made but hold on a minute. We’re talking about fixes to a kit that has been sold as 100% perfect, been tested for over 1yr with “no issues” yet here I am along with several other people who have got “issues” and who are not 100% happy?</p><p></p><p>I start to hear replies of “well v3 or v4 will fix that” and “well it’s in now so there is nothing we can do right?” I think to myself “hold up, I just shelled out $$$$s on a kit which is supposed to work and have little to no errors at all”. I then begin to take a look with my VAG.COM at the timing on this SW and discover that there are some “serious” issues here. Take a look at this pic which shows some serious timing issues with the car being “maxed out” in terms of how rich & how lean it’s running.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The final straw came when I went to go to dinner with my wife and she refused to get in the R. She said she’s not getting in the car as she’s scared since it’s cuts out and is not running right. At that point there was nothing left to do but to remove the kit from my car. This is a car I have paid for (own title) and intend to keep for sometime Therefore I am not going to “settle” for a kit which had problems (install or not)</p><p></p><p>So why VF?</p><p>One word bulletproof. I’ve seen first hand several VF kits get through their paces at track days, dyno days, test drives, canyon runs etc etc. The only component I know of to date, which has cried for submission, is the clutch. I wanted a Turbo to be different and to kind of go back to my days with my first TT but this wasn’t to be.</p><p></p><p>The other sealing part of this deal was Nik and the team at VF. They moved their schedule around to fit me in and took care of me and got me in and out in 1day. The VF kit speaks for itself. Sure on paper it doesn’t make as much power as the Turbo kit. Well sorry guys and gals, real life is a little bit different to paper. What I mean by that is I now have a VF Stage II kit on my car and I couldn’t be happier. It’s smooth, it’s fast, it’s reliable, it works and it hasn’t broken or melted other parts of my car. I get in my car and turn the key and go – every time!</p><p></p><p>The kits are so “night and day” from each other. The Turbo will build power low down but will die off around 5k whereas the VF kit just builds and builds and builds which is just too much fun. You know I can safely (with experience) say that the GIAC SW is living up to it’s name and is a perfect reliable and proven partner for VF and their kits.</p><p></p><p>All done, now I just need to get my full line of “Jay Caps” and clean the engine up Very Happy</p><p></p><p></p><p>Summary</p><p>- my EIP Stage 1 kit had some issues which were never fully addressed so I pulled the kit off</p><p>- my install went horribly wrong</p><p>- Rich is working on fixing the above issues (I believe there is a v4 now)</p><p>- Rich has taken steps to avoid any more CA based problems</p><p>- Nik & the team at VF have been AWESOME thumbup</p><p>- QBN, thanks for letting me take parts off your car to fix mine thumbup I owe you dood</p><p>- I now have a working FI car, which is what I wanted, and I couldn’t be happier!</p><p>- oh and the kit is already gone - sold for spares</p><p></p><p>Whilst many of the issues can be attributed to the faulty install I feel the kit does have some areas that I think need to be addressed by EIP (such as SW and heat issues & timing). I know that rich is working on these so once they are complete I’m sure it’ll be a great kit.</p><p></p><p>BTW I had to wait for a while to get some parts replaced on my car that were damaged from the install which is why it’s taken me so long to post up about what I’ve been up to. Also, as some of you can imagine it’s not exactly an easy post to draw up and put down.</p><p></p><p>TTFN I’m off to have some more fun in my VF SII - see ya @ DF Very Happy</p><p></p><p>PS: Nik, you wanna hurry up with that E46 kit as I’ve already spanked a couple of stock ones on the freeways Laughing</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="uKG, post: 50135"] hi, interessiere mich ebenfalls für einen turbo umbau, was eip anging hab ich auch nie was grossartig schlechtest in erfahrung bringen können. aber viell. wollt ihr euch das mal durchlesen... Quelle: [url]www.rdefined.de[/url] mfg --------------------------------------------------- [img]http://images12.fotki.com/v214/photos/1/11117/2599846/DSC00267-vi.jpg[/img] Err hold up, what about the EIP Stage 1? Yeah what about that Turbo? Well a lot has happened to my poor car since Memorial Weekend (when it was first dropped off) Clogged cats, missing waste gate bolts, incorrectly installed components, SW updates needed, miss-firing and stalling ECU etc etc. Basically the car (kit) just never worked and ran correctly. For anyone who has “read between the lines” or has been keeping up it’s no secret that my car had some serious install issues. Rich himself acknowledged this in earlier threads (including the EIP vs VF comparison Chris & I did on the way back from DATR. Such so that as a result of the problems Rich is no longer offering California installs until he can assure that he has someone to perform the install correctly. Something which I think is a wise and good move for Rich to ensure he can give the best support. This whole ordeal started for me around Memorial Weekend and I was never really able to drive the car until I was coming back from CO. The car was making 4.5lbs of boost and was quick, but no where near as quick as I wanted it to be, or I feel it should be. I could hear the engine crying for air (the same sound I used to hear in my Audi TT with front mount also) The other strange thing happening was the ECU would die repeatedly (normally in 1st or 2nd gear) but this was becoming a concern as, well, that’s just not right. OK let me know explain where I am at this point in time. My car’s been messed around with for about 2mths and I’m still not driving a 100% reliable kit. The car is now sat in my garage and I’m trying to work with EIP to get someone up to fix it – or get my car to them to fix it. So I begin to question (call & PM) other EIP users on the Tex and begin to find out that I am not alone with the problems I’ve been having. Hmm, heat issues, stalling ECUs, programming not right and generally not 100%. Now ok, at this point some fixes can be made but hold on a minute. We’re talking about fixes to a kit that has been sold as 100% perfect, been tested for over 1yr with “no issues” yet here I am along with several other people who have got “issues” and who are not 100% happy? I start to hear replies of “well v3 or v4 will fix that” and “well it’s in now so there is nothing we can do right?” I think to myself “hold up, I just shelled out $$$$s on a kit which is supposed to work and have little to no errors at all”. I then begin to take a look with my VAG.COM at the timing on this SW and discover that there are some “serious” issues here. Take a look at this pic which shows some serious timing issues with the car being “maxed out” in terms of how rich & how lean it’s running. The final straw came when I went to go to dinner with my wife and she refused to get in the R. She said she’s not getting in the car as she’s scared since it’s cuts out and is not running right. At that point there was nothing left to do but to remove the kit from my car. This is a car I have paid for (own title) and intend to keep for sometime Therefore I am not going to “settle” for a kit which had problems (install or not) So why VF? One word bulletproof. I’ve seen first hand several VF kits get through their paces at track days, dyno days, test drives, canyon runs etc etc. The only component I know of to date, which has cried for submission, is the clutch. I wanted a Turbo to be different and to kind of go back to my days with my first TT but this wasn’t to be. The other sealing part of this deal was Nik and the team at VF. They moved their schedule around to fit me in and took care of me and got me in and out in 1day. The VF kit speaks for itself. Sure on paper it doesn’t make as much power as the Turbo kit. Well sorry guys and gals, real life is a little bit different to paper. What I mean by that is I now have a VF Stage II kit on my car and I couldn’t be happier. It’s smooth, it’s fast, it’s reliable, it works and it hasn’t broken or melted other parts of my car. I get in my car and turn the key and go – every time! The kits are so “night and day” from each other. The Turbo will build power low down but will die off around 5k whereas the VF kit just builds and builds and builds which is just too much fun. You know I can safely (with experience) say that the GIAC SW is living up to it’s name and is a perfect reliable and proven partner for VF and their kits. All done, now I just need to get my full line of “Jay Caps” and clean the engine up Very Happy Summary - my EIP Stage 1 kit had some issues which were never fully addressed so I pulled the kit off - my install went horribly wrong - Rich is working on fixing the above issues (I believe there is a v4 now) - Rich has taken steps to avoid any more CA based problems - Nik & the team at VF have been AWESOME thumbup - QBN, thanks for letting me take parts off your car to fix mine thumbup I owe you dood - I now have a working FI car, which is what I wanted, and I couldn’t be happier! - oh and the kit is already gone - sold for spares Whilst many of the issues can be attributed to the faulty install I feel the kit does have some areas that I think need to be addressed by EIP (such as SW and heat issues & timing). I know that rich is working on these so once they are complete I’m sure it’ll be a great kit. BTW I had to wait for a while to get some parts replaced on my car that were damaged from the install which is why it’s taken me so long to post up about what I’ve been up to. Also, as some of you can imagine it’s not exactly an easy post to draw up and put down. TTFN I’m off to have some more fun in my VF SII - see ya @ DF Very Happy PS: Nik, you wanna hurry up with that E46 kit as I’ve already spanked a couple of stock ones on the freeways Laughing [/QUOTE]
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